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Welcome to the official podcast of Light City Church, a Spirit-filled, apostolic-prophetic ministry under the dynamic leadership of Chief Apostle Leonard Lucas Jr. and Apostle Leonard Lucas III. Rooted in the heart of New Orleans and reaching around the world, Light City Church is a transformative movement committed to raising up leaders, igniting revival, and teaching biblical dominion in every area of life.
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The God Who Rescues: Rising From the Pit and Hell
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Have you ever felt like you were in a pit so deep, dark, and overwhelming that there was no way out? Whether it’s a pit of depression, anxiety, heartbreak, or spiritual warfare, there is a powerful truth you need to know today: We serve a God who specializes in rescue missions.
In this video, we are diving deep into the profound truth of God’s deliverance. He doesn't just watch us from a distance; He reaches down into the lowest places—even the depths of sheol and the pit—to pull us out, set our feet on a rock, and restore our lives.
No matter how far you feel you’ve fallen, or how dark your current season is, you are never out of reach of God's hand. Let these scriptures remind you of His ultimate power to save, heal, and deliver.
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There is no way you can understand somebody as magnificent as God is who is everywhere at the same time. He's not somewhere, he's everywhere. While you're thinking God is just on the planet called Earth, I want you to know that He's not just here, He's everywhere. He's in hell, He's in the heavens, He's on Mars, and He's way out in space that in the places I don't know. Now you tell me what kind of God is that that is everywhere at the same time. And you pray as if he doesn't know what's going on with you. You pray as if he don't know anything about you. You go to him with those little nickel prayers, Lord, I need a loaf of bread. And he says, Not one of the ants I ever created ever asked me for bread. Because they will walk miles to go find the bread, then go back to the cave and tell everybody where it is, and they'll all come back and get it until it's all gone. So he will work all day, go out by himself, because his purpose is to find bread. And he knows he cannot come back with a bad report. Now I can't tell you how he can find that bread. I can't tell you do he have a nose or eyes or what. But I can tell you one thing. If you put it there, he's going to find it. And if you leave it there, he's going to make sure it's all gone. If the ant as small as he is, as insignificant as you think he is, if he can believe God to feed him and all of the hundreds of millions of them in that little castle, what about you? You've seen them pick up something seemingly ten times bigger than them, carrying something so large that it's impossible to even believe that they're able to do it. If God is that great and that magnificent and and that uh precise to make sure the ant gets what he needs. I read in scripture where God feeds the lion. I'm not an advocate friend of the lion because go around eating himself. But um He's one of the best things that God has for controlling the population in the forest. So he has to get a meal and get his daily bread. You know the vultures that sit in the heavens and they fly around and they're the ones that go find rotten meat. Because if they don't eat the rotten meat, then the poison in the meat will destroy everybody in the forest. So isn't it amazing how they will find the rotten meat to eat it all up to keep the whole environment safe, keep it safe for us and all the animals. The magnificence of God is beyond anything you and I can understand.
SPEAKER_01He's an awesome God.
SPEAKER_02Somebody even called him the Lord God, and it is amazing that you would do what you do without consulting him or believing that he's able. Isn't that something that something so magnificent as God is would be so sensitive, Minister Lee, to the point that he would want you to know that it was done because he did it for you. In understanding that if he does it for you and you trust him and believe that he exists, that you would tell somebody how good he is. And you will lift up your voice, your heart, your hands, and tell him thank you. You would tell him thank you because you would recognize and realize what he did for you yesterday and what he's doing for you today, and what he'll do for you tomorrow supersedes anything he's ever done for you. So the praise and the worship will have a greater understanding and a greater revelation to his magnificence that you will begin to usher yourself into the presence of Almighty God. Maybe you will do such a magnificent job like one man called Enoch who went into the presence of God and never died. What was it about him that God allowed him to come into the heavens? Not on the second level or the third level. He went beyond the second, the third, the fourth, and the fifth levels of the heavens. He saw revelation in heaven that we don't know of anybody that equals to the revelation that he saw. The apostle Paul went to the third revelation, that third level, and he says, I can't even tell you what I saw. So if Paul went to the third heaven and saw what he saw, and Enoch went to the seventh or the tenth heaven, can you imagine what he must experience? It was so powerful the relationship with Enoch that one day God just decided to take him. Now I don't know if you know that Enoch was a human being. If he was a human being, he must have had a grandfather. If he was a human being, he must have had some grandchildren. If he was a human being, he must have had a wife. Can you imagine if he had a family and one day he was no longer there because of the relationship he had with God was so magnificent that God took him. To the point that no doubt the family understood who he was and understood what he saw because they were able to watch him operate on the level of greatness and understanding what the common man of his day and time did not understand? Can you imagine being Enoch and having a relationship with God that supersedes all human beings, and you have no one to share that with? Can you imagine being God in heaven and having all of himself and all of the greatness of who he is and having nobody to share it with? So here's Enoch who gets revelation from God and he can't share it. And here is God who's got revelation he wants to give, and there's hardly anybody or nobody to give it to. And so both of them have the same struggle. They need each other. Enoch needs to talk to somebody, and God needs to share with somebody. So God got to the place he says, it's best that I just take you with me and I can continue to share. Do you not realize even scripture says about Abraham that God preached something to him, not the law of Moses, but the gospel of Jesus? Y'all didn't get that. You see, Moses hadn't been born yet. And Jesus was thousands of years before he came. And there is God sharing with Abraham, one day my son is going to come. And I am going to put him on the altar and sacrifice him. And three days later, he's going to rise from the grave. After Abraham heard that, he said, Well, God, give me a shot at that. You think Abraham did what he did because he didn't understand it or he just did it just because he did it. No, he heard God speak about a son, his only begotten son. Abraham had an only begotten son named Isaac. Around the age of 12, he decided to take him on the mountain to test God. How faithful was Abraham to the relationship he had with his friend. He took his son up in faith. Everybody saying faith. You say, why did you say faith? Because Abraham believed God. You see, there's some things you say you're doing by faith, but you don't have any belief in God that he's going to do it. So you can't say you have faith if you don't have trust and belief in God. You might have something, but it's not faith. But Abraham had faith. And as he was going up the mountain, he told his servants, You just stay here till I go up. Me and the boy are going up. But he makes a powerful statement of faith. Maybe he understood something about the resurrection life and knew that his son would come back from the dead. He said, He and I will return. But he did not go up there to play with God. He went up there to offer a sacrifice to God. His son even says to him as they're climbing up the mountain, he says, Dad, I see everything. Now understand, Isaac knew what was the altar. Isaac knew the sacrifice that had to go on the altar. He had watched his father do altars all of his existence. And now they're going up, but there is no lamb. But Isaac didn't realize that he was the perfect lamb of God, that he was a foreshadow of what was to come. Abraham, being the father, had to understand he was the prophetic father that was going to teach God how to do what God needed to do. Although God didn't need to be taught because God taught him, but Abraham is now going to teach God that if I can do it, God, you must give up your only son as well. I wish I was talking to somebody here this morning. Can you imagine now? God is obligated to give up Jesus because Abraham believed the story and he gave up his only begotten son. Abraham and Isaac goes up to the mountain and they build the altar. And now the question is who's going to be the sacrifice? And Isaac understood that there has to be a lamb on the altar. Now I don't know if, no, I'll know. I never would have done that with my father. I would have ran away from home. But Isaac being the obedient, everybody say obedient. You see, obedient is better than something. Mmm, obedience is better than sacrifice. So Isaac had something in him that supersede the normal child of his age understanding. Can you imagine he's willing to lay on the altar and get tied up if his father tied him up and lay there knowing that he's going to be a fire sacrifice, a burnt sacrifice, Minister Lee? Oh, somebody shout with me here today. You have to understand. He lays there, and the father gets the knife to do what you're supposed to do to the offering. And as Abraham takes the knife and puts it in his hands, you don't hear that Isaac cry, Father, no, don't do it. Now come on, y'all. There have been some weapons that I tried to get out of. And I'll never forget, I said one time that my father wasn't going to beat me this time. Matter of fact, when I made 14 years old, I said to myself, my father uh beat me, and we went in the room. I said to myself, I walked in the room. I was 14 years old. I walked in the room and I said to myself, Minister Lee, this is the last whipping anybody's gonna do me. So this come on in here, you get this over with, because I ain't going down this road no more. Anybody listening? You see, I could not have been Isaac, is what I'm saying. Because even with my own father, whatever the reason why he was disciplined enough beating me, or as Michael Jackson said, Joseph beat him, I'm like, bro, that's what black pre black fathers do to their children. They beat you. Hello, somebody. That's normal. But Michael must have thought something as as can you imagine having Michael Jackson as a son who can't even sit down and be still? He's like Dream Walker. You just can't just be still. You can't beat it out of her. She's not gonna keep being she you you just it's just in her. You just need to know something's in her because God put it there and you need to understand what it is. When you don't understand it, you only do, my father only knew the whip stuff. So he did what he had understanding. It didn't work, I guess. I don't know. Made me bitter, made me mad. I couldn't have been Isaac, is what I'm saying. Because I couldn't take the whip, is my father gave me the couple of times I did get one. I knew how bitter I was. But here's Isaac laying on the altar, and the knife is in his father's hands, but he doesn't charge his father. He doesn't accuse his father. He lays there as an obedient son. And as Abraham is coming down with the knife, it indicates that the angel of the Lord had to intervene, which means the offering was already accepted. The Lamb was slain before the foundation of the world. Jesus now has to become the perfect sacrifice because if Isaac was willing and God had to become the perfect father, because if Abraham was willing, then God was on the spot and Jesus was on the spot. And they had to make sure that they did what was necessary to fulfill the promise of God. It's called the gospel. May I say to you that Jesus died and he gave up his blood, not just for the Jews only, but for you and I who are Gentiles and never would have access into the things of God. So can you imagine God coming down in all of the cultures of the world and bringing salvation? We just got back from India and thousands, millions of people are saved, born again, spirit-filled, and love God with all their heart. The preacher has a service starts at 3.30 in the morning. I'm like, what? 3.30 in the morning? Have mercy, Jesus. You know, in America, we would have a difficult time thinking about getting up to go to church. Where you think you're going? To church? This time in the morning? Yes, this time in the morning. The second service is as packed, I would imagine, as the first service. And between that, they have to drive two hours, I believe, away to another service, to the second service, and then drive back to go to the third service. All over the world, as God promised, he was going to make sure that the gospel gets out. And and in Africa and all the places that I've been, Australia will be the sixth continent I've been on. Well, when I get there, it will be the sixth continent. And I believe that there are people there. Can you imagine that? Don't ask me how it happened. But God is making sure that there are people all over the globe in places that you would not imagine, and the places that we went to in India, the road even ran out.
SPEAKER_01I'm like, where are we going?
SPEAKER_02I don't even know how those people found their way around. It made no sense. Wasn't no street lights, no street signs. It was back up in the bushes of the holes, and when you get there, there's hundreds of people ready for church, and they're ready to worship God. God is so past finding out. He preached the gospel to Abraham, and Abraham walked by faith, trusting God. And God said something about Abraham. He says, Abraham, this is what I'm going to do with you. Because you believe me, I'm going to give you salvation. Oh, somebody shout with me. Because you believe me, I'm going to give you something that is not available or readily available in the Old Testament. Oh, somebody help me here. You see, you have to understand that Abraham was before the law of Moses. So from the time of Adam to the time of Moses, what was going on? How did one have a relationship with God? And what was God like with them that was separate and apart from the people of Moses' time? Moses had laws that was written on tablets. Abraham had the laws written in his heart. That's why he had to believe God. You see, you can't believe God by reading it. You have to believe God by believing it. When you believe something, it's got to be inside of you. That is the reason why the faith that you and I have should be, should supersede the faith or the trust or the confidence that the children of Israel had, because what we have is inside of us. What they have is outside of them. But Abraham got a taste of what you and I possess because he believed God. And scripture says that God accounted it unto something, unto righteousness. And in order for a man to receive salvation, he has to have the righteousness of the kingdom of God. So Abraham was a foreshadow of the things to come. Though he was living before the law of Moses, but he was living inside of all, oh, somebody say all. He was living inside of all the laws of God. So may I say something to you that you need to understand that you and I today are living inside of the laws of God, not the laws of Moses. You see, Moses gave them the 12 stones, the 12 of the Ten Commandments, but God gave us all the laws. That's why before you do something, the voice of God will speak to you to let you know this is the way to go. It is unfortunate when you decide not to go the way God has prescribed for you to go. You violate the law that's on the inside of you, inside of a place called your spirit, which is House where where the law of God is housed, because the law is so many and so magnificent and so marvelous. No book, no Bible, no no no no no stone is large enough to contain it. So what God has decided to do was put it inside of our hearts. Isaiah prophesied that the day would come when God would give it to us around chapter 31, 32, 33, that God would put the laws in our hearts. That's where they belong. So you cannot say you don't know because the law is in your heart. The law is in the heart of a non-believer. I wish I was telling talking to somebody. You knew right from wrong before you got saved. You knew that thing told you don't do what you did and you did it anyway. You call it first mind, second mind. But there are no two or three or four or five minds. You just need to understand it's the law of God that is housed in your heart because inside of every man is God's presence. Oh, somebody help me here. Isn't it amazing, Theophilus, how you can have the laws of God in your heart, but still not be saved? Isn't that amazing? What happens when God brings salvation to you? Now you are doubly responsible to live a righteous life. Because not only do you have the laws of God, you now have the Holy Spirit to lead you and guide you into something called all laws or all truth, all revelation. He's gonna lead you and guide you and convict you of sins. He's gonna convince you of the way that you should go. There is no excuse for those of us who are born again spirit-filled. Can you imagine God loved you so much that when he saved you, he didn't just save you and God gave you eternal life, but he filled you so that you can walk in this world with the power and the authority of God. That's what makes you so uniquely different. You are not only saved, but you are filled. And then when he filled you with the Holy Spirit, he gave you something called power. And then after he gave you power, he gave you something greater than power. It's called authority. So now you can operate to the point where you can say the words that I speak of spirit and life. You can make statements like my words, I don't know nothing about your words, but my words will never come back to me void. But it's going to what? It's going to accomplish the thing that I send it forward. How come? Because I have the authority, I have the power, because I know I'm filled with the Holy Ghost, and the Spirit of God will lead me and guide me into all truth. Somebody help me up in here. You need to realize and recognize what's going on on the inside of you so that you might understand who God is, the magnificent, marvelous God who took time, you ain't even bigger than a piece of dust. And God decided to come visit you and give you salvation. You see, there's a little thing called sand. You get on the beach. If you ever decide to grab a piece of sand, you ever grab one, just one piece of sand? It's almost impossible to do, but you can do it. But think about you being dust. Dust is lighter than sand. And there you are, just dust floating in the atmosphere. That's all you are, but God loves you so much. Somebody even say, why are you bothering with that thing called dust? Why are you bothering with that thing called sand? Why are you bothering with man? Why you waste your time when you are so magnificent, you are marvelous, you are God, and beside you there is why are you bothering with him? Because God has a need to have a relationship. You can't love if there's nothing to love. You can't tell me you are God of love and you ain't got nothing to love. You can't tell me you love the angels because they're all confirmed to do what they do. You can't tell me you love the stars because they're all gonna shine. You can't tell me you love the things that you created because it's gonna do. So you have to do something to prove that you love. And guess what? He did something to prove that he loved. He made man out of dust and gave him the right to make decisions. And most of the decisions that man make will be against him, but he will come back every time and say, I'm gonna prove to you I'm God because I'm gonna love you in spite of your sin. Somebody help me up in here. I'm gonna prove that no matter how many times you do what you do, I'm gonna give my only son for you because what I have to do is not on the outside of you with the five, the ten laws, but I have to go in your heart and I'm gonna work on the inside of you because the day is going to come. I'm gonna have a small amount of people, and you just so happen there's only eight billion today. I don't know how many are gonna be tomorrow. Don't know how many billions have already been, but can you imagine out of all of the billions, little dust, you've been one he selected. You're only one that he selected, little piece of dust. And you can't lift your hands and tell him, Thank you. You can't magnify the Lord, say you're just a little tiny piece of dust that he loves so much that he watches over you and makes sure that every piece of your need is met. According to his riches, somewhere in a place called Glolemandasta in glory, where there is no shortage, you don't have to worry about red beans and rice, you don't have to eat them on Monday, you can eat them every day if you desire. Somebody help me here. You need to recognize and realize that he'll meet all of your needs according to his riches. You have to understand that if he gives you flowers every year they come up, no matter how often you cut it, every spring the flowers keep coming up. No matter what you do to the grass, it keeps coming up. He makes sure that there's something in the grass for all the birds and all the things that live in the grass can eat. Things the birds be picking. I'm looking like, I don't see nothing, but that little bird sees something. He keeps picking till he gets enough. He gets a little baby. He's got to make a hundred trips a day to feed that little baby. And he goes, and every time he comes back, he never tells his baby, I ain't got nothing for you. Every time he gets back, he comes back with something so the baby can eat. Lift your hands and tell God, thank you. If God is concerned about the baby, feeling God is concerned about you. I need you to magnify the Lord so you don't know how to magnify him. You don't know how to make him bigger than your problem, you don't know how to make him bigger than your situation. He's already worked out what you're trying to figure out. To God be the glory for the great things he's done. In the book of Zechariah, chapter 13. Let's start with verse 8. Zechariah chapter 13. I want those of you that's watching to follow us today. My prayer today is that I be convincing, Minister Lee, that I be I'll be able to share what he's given me. Because this word of God is so powerful, it is so magnificent, it's so great. Every word is powerful. None of it is void of power. Don't take this lightly, don't take it for granted. You need to recognize and realize that this is not all God has to say in the 66 books. That's why He put the word in your heart. You don't need to ask anybody, God will reveal it. He says, if a man lack wisdom, let him ask of God, who give liberately and upbraided not, and he will not judge you or call you a name. He'll just keep uh pouring out his revelation to you. He says, and I he says, and it will come what about in all, everybody say in all the Lamb. Who's declaring this? The Lord declares it. Now watch this because it's this is important. He says, two parts in it will be cut off and perish. If there's two cut parts, oh I mean, I'm sorry, wait, uh two-thirds. It must be two-thirds. I'm getting excited. Two parts, yeah, two parts in it will be cut off and perish, but the third will be left.
SPEAKER_01I'm gonna take it removed two thirds. Then what I'm going to do is I'm gonna leave a third if you take two-thirds off of the eight billion people. How many people gone? Five million? Ah, it's gonna be a billion. Can you imagine?
SPEAKER_02In a moment? Five billion people, or how many a third of uh of eight billion?
SPEAKER_01Whatever that is. No. We're not talking about how many people that exist today.
SPEAKER_02We're talking about everybody inside of time. Who's declaring this? Who's declaring it? The Lord's declaring it.
SPEAKER_01Everybody say the Lord. One more time.
SPEAKER_02The Lord declares it. Two parts therein shall be cut off, and what shall happen to them? They shall die and they shall perish. But a third shall be left. Read the next verse. I will do something with the third, Willie May. What is it I'm gonna do with the third?
SPEAKER_01I'm gonna put them in something called fire. Did you get that? What is he gonna do with two thirds?
SPEAKER_02If there was ten billion people on the world in the world from beginning to the end, six billion of them gone.
SPEAKER_01Over six billion gone.
SPEAKER_02And here's what he says, walking with that third. I'm God, and what am I gonna do with them? I'm gonna do something with them. I'm gonna send them through. Are you ready, Minister Lee? Why are you crying? Pastor, are you ready? Why you complaining? Walker, are you ready? Why you're nervous? Willie May, are you nervous? Are you ready? Why you want to give up? Theophilus, are you nervous? Why you want to figure it out? What I'm gonna do with the third is send them in the fire. But you see, all of my life I've been taught to be afraid of the fire. Mama said, Don't put your hand in the fire, don't play with the fire. You better leave that fire alone. So, what mama taught me is what I believe. And what I believe about fire is I'm afraid of it. Somebody shout with me. But God says, I'm gonna take the third of that mankind that I have left, and I'm gonna do something with them. What you gonna do, God? I'm gonna send them to the fire. Now, what's happened with the others? They're going to hell. They're gonna perish and live eternally in the fire. But there's a fire that God wants to take you through that's not hell, but it's a processing fire. Somebody shout with me here today. Go to Isaiah right fast. Isaiah chapter 48, verse 10. Oh my God, I wish I do. Father, let me do a good job here today. Minister Lee, we got people who say they're saved, but they don't want to go through the fire. They're putting the fire out, Walker. They're rebuking the fire in the name of Jesus. But what they don't realize that God has decided. Listen to Isaiah chapter 48, verse 10. Behold, everybody say, check this out. Read the rest of it. I have refined you. What have I done?
SPEAKER_00I have refined you.
SPEAKER_02I have refined you, but not as silver. But not as silver. I have what?
SPEAKER_00I have refined you, but not as silver.
SPEAKER_02I have chosen.
SPEAKER_00I have tried you.
SPEAKER_02You in the furnace of affliction. Somebody lift your hands and tell God thank you. What is God doing, Walker? He's afflicting us because He has chosen us. If you don't want to go through afflictions, then you want to die and go to hell. Oh, somebody help me here. But God says, guess what? What I'm going to do with you, Minister Lee, is not going to be with the man deals with silver or gold. They send that too far. But what I'm going to do is go inside of your heart. My God, my God. And I'm going to send the process. I'm going to take you through situations. I'm going to allow people to lie on you. I'm going to allow things that happen to you. I'm going to make you feel bad in the morning. I'm going to make you wish you never was born. I'm going to take you through affliction like you'd never seen. I believe somebody said if it hadn't been for the afflictions of God, you don't understand that if you are going through afflictions, it's because you might be a part of the one-third that He has separated to go through afflictions so that he can try you to prove that God is real. We got too many saints crying, too many saints murmuring, too many saints trying to figure stuff out. God says, I separated you. And I brought you to fire. Forget about what your mama said. I'm not burning you as I burn silver and gold. I'm burning you with my word. And I will not stop until I get out of you every single thing that I demand. Ezekiel chapter 20, verse 38. And I will purge out from among you. Oh God. What's that next word? I will purge out from among you. Just give me that next word.
SPEAKER_00Rebels.
SPEAKER_02What's the next word? Rebels.
SPEAKER_00Rebels. I will purge out the rebels.
SPEAKER_02I just told you to give me one word. I want you to read.
SPEAKER_00Rebels.
SPEAKER_02I already read that part. What is he doing by purging? He's getting rid of what he don't want. He's getting rid of what he don't want. If he's purging you and taking you through the test of love, come on, watch this. You tell God you love everybody. So what God's going to send? He's going to send some haters your way. Oh Lord Jesus. God said, Didn't I hear you say you love everybody? Well, let me send some haters your way and see if what you said is the truth. I'm going to purge the hell out of you. My God, you've been talking about you love God with all your heart. Let me see if you love me with all your heart. Let me take you through something to prove that what you said is real. May I say something to you? You are saying one thing with your mouth, but your heart is in another direction. But I came to tell you something. God is in the process of making us. And the way God makes us, you say, God bless me with money. God said, okay, I'm going to bless you with money. And then all of a sudden you check your accounts out. Ain't no money in the account. And God said, Take that penny you got left, and I want you to give it away. You tell God, I can't give my last dime to the Lord or nobody else. God said, Well, I thought you said you wanted me to bless you. How can I believe you want me to bless you when you won't do what I ask you to do? Do you not know that my word says, give? And it shall be given back, not to Minister Lee, but back to you. Somebody better hear what I'm saying. You're trying to make God out of a liar. You got on your knees and you ask him for it. And he's got the process of taking you to the fire. You trying to figure out what's going on. You don't understand what he's doing. But God said, But then you prayed last night and said, God calm down. And God said, I came down. But what happened? You ran me off because you didn't understand what I was doing in your life. You murmured and complained because you don't understand how I do what I do. And them that transgress against me, Minister Lee, guess what I'm gonna do? Purge them. I will bring them forth out of the country while they sur where they sojourn. And they shall what's that next word? They shall what? They shall not. Everybody says, shall not. What's the rest of that? Shall not enter into the land of promise. And you shall know what I'm doing with the purge, what I'm doing with the fire, what I'm doing with the trials. I'm teaching you to know that I am. Somebody help me here. Moses says, Who are you? He says, I am. He tells uh uh uh who where we at here? He tells Ezekiel, you said he said Ezekiel tell him, I am. I want you to know in the year 2026, God still wants to teach you the principle of I am. But see, you got insurance policy, you got backup policy, you got this policy, you got money here, money there, you got your plans, you got this, that, and the other. God can't trust you, so he lets you build what you want, but you don't even know what you do, God's gonna burn, and what he do, he's gonna refine.
SPEAKER_01Malachi chapter three, verse three.
SPEAKER_02And he shall sit. I want you to see that. What's the next word? He shall sit as a what?
SPEAKER_00Refiner.
SPEAKER_02He shall sit as a refiner. And not only when he refines you, he's going to do something else, Mr. Lee. He's going to put you in the fire one time and you think it's all over with. But he's going to pull out the trough. Then he's going to bring you back in and take it and get rid of the tin. He's going to come back and purify you. You thought the first burning was something. You thought the first test was something. You thought the first trial was something, but you didn't realize that he had to go down. He went into part A of your heart, but you don't know there's a part B he had to get into. Oh, somebody help me here. You thought part A was hard, but he says, now I got to purify what I've started inside of you. Can I help somebody up in here? When God goes through the process, he's not going to back up because you're crying, because you don't understand what he's doing. He's refining you and he's purifying purifying you so that when it's all said and done, he says, and he shall purify the sons of God or the sons of Levi, purge them as gold and silver that they may, that they may want, that they may want, that they may offer unto the Lord an offering in righteousness. See, you hadn't gotten to that point yet because you don't understand that he's trying to get you to the point where you trust him. You see, when you give, I'm not talking about your tithe because that belonged to God, but I'm talking about your offering that you haven't perfected yet because he's going to ask you for stuff that you don't want to give, but it's called an offering in righteousness. What does that mean? It's going to put you in right standing with God, that from now on, Abraham, you don't have to pray about it, just be about it.
SPEAKER_01Everybody thinks God wants something from them.
SPEAKER_02Who like God would want something from you who he made? If he wanted gold, he'd go into the ground. He wanted water, he would drink it from the oxygen in the air. Whatever he needs, he doesn't have a need because he already had it. He don't even have to come to the earth, Minister Lee. He can go to one of the planets he had somewhere else. He's so magnificent, he's so marvelous. The earth is just a small ball in the economy of God. And if the earth is a small ball, think what you are.
SPEAKER_01God don't need any of us.
SPEAKER_02He's self-sustaining. He is I am. The great thing about I am is he loves to be I am in the lives of his children. He's not one of those runaway fathers. He's not a dead be dad. Let's go back to Zechariah chapter 3, verse 9. He says, I will bring the third part through the fire and will refine them as silver is refined. Not only will I refine them, what else will I do? After I refine them, what else I'm gonna do? Give you time to get there. I'll just tell you. I'm gonna test you. Watch this, y'all. Y'all know what a test is, huh? I'm gonna take you through the process of love. Then I'm gonna send the haters to talk about you like a dog. Then I'm gonna send them in your life and test you to see if your love is real. Oh my God. God's testing us every day. And may I say to you, may I say to those of you watching and listening, we're failing the test because we don't understand the process. And how many times I failed the test because I didn't understand what I know today. And now I I I'm not, Minister Lee, trying to ask God for another shot at this because I understand the pain of it. Don't nobody like the pain of it. But whatever it takes to get me to where I need to be, I want to be there. Because if I'm a third, I got to represent God. Because God knows I don't want to go to hell. Anybody listening? Because, see, some people don't believe that there is a hell, and that's okay, because if you're a sinner, that's what you're supposed to believe. Because you don't want to die and go there. But guess what? The moment you die, you're there. You ain't got to believe it or not. Once you die, you're there. If you never gave your life to Christ, God is testing you to see what you said you believe. Let me say that again. He's not refining you this time, he's testing you. He's already been through the test, I mean the refinement. Now he's testing to see if what you said in your prayer. God, if you bless me, I'm gonna be a blessing. So what he does is he go finds Lazarus. Y'all know who he is, right? Put him at your door. And you look at Lazarus and say, why are you rotting behind, sitting in front of my nice, beautiful door? Move on. God said, I just test you to see if you believe what you said. And the minute you tell Lazarus to move on, God comes and convicts you and says, That's the test you just failed. And now you have to go back through the process of the fire. You have to go back through the process of being refined so that you can understand God has a way of bringing in your life the situations that you don't welcome, but he has orchestrated it. Anybody listening? He says, They shall call on my name and I will hear them. You see, after he tries you and you pass, then you call on his name, he says, then I'll hear you, and then I will say, It is my people, and they shall say, What shall they say? Talk in the mic, what shall they say? The Lord is my God. You ain't got there yet because you have everything but God, you got cars, you got money, you have this, that, and the other, and you're convinced that that's greater than God. So you hadn't been through the right tests, you hadn't been through the refinements, you hadn't been through the purifications, to understand that God is trying to make you a true vessel of honor.
SPEAKER_01To taste and see that the Lord is God.
SPEAKER_02Psalms fifty verse ten says, and call upon me in the day.